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Have you read/seen/heard of Fifty Shades of Grey?

Have you read/seen/heard of Fifty Shades of Grey?  

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  1. 1. Have you read/seen/heard of Fifty Shades of Grey?

    • No. Is that a new Crayola release?
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    • Yes. I have heard of it but I'm not that interested. (Please explain.)
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    • Yes, I read the books/watched the movie. I don't have a strong opinion. (Please explain.)
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    • Yes, I read the books/watched the movie. I rather enjoyed the way the lifestyle was portrayed. (Please explain.)
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    • Yes. I read the books/watched the movie. I rather disliked the way the lifestyle was portrayed. (Please explain.)
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This poll was suggested and written by member Candy3282.  So she's the authority on this one, if you have questions, concerns, kudos, etc.  Thanks!

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Candy3282

Hey everyone.  Just a couple of things before we get right to the good stuff. 

Please, and  I can't stress this enough, regardless of your views DO NOT be disrespectful toward your fellow members.  It's not nice and makes people less likely to want to interact with you. 

DO give a clear,  thorough explanation of your point of view so others are better able to understand your point. Vagueness has a place, but this is not it. 

This is to be a healthy and civil discussion/debate. If you can agree with this then proceed. Let's see how those beautiful minds work :)

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I have read the books and seen the movie. Personally, I found them to be quite a farce.  Yes, I admit to being heavily biased. The way Christian Grey behaved mirrored my own experience as a first time Submissive to a male. Lots of things screamed abuse to me.

That aside, the naivete portrayed by Anastasia was heartbreaking. In my opinion, had she been taught things like SSC or Safe, Sane and Consensual and RACK aka Risk Aware Consensual Kink and knew that those go hand in hand; she wouldn't have let Christian that close. 

I feel that had E.L James done some actual research into the lifestyle and potrayed it accurately the influx of new members sites like Fetlife have coming in due to having read watched 50SOG wouldn't have so many misconceptions that need to be corrected. 

Again these are just my thoughts on the subject. In no way are these the views of the lovely ladies that run Lesbotronic and should not be taken as such. I want to hear your thoughts on the subject. If you are a fan that's awesome! Tell us why you love it. If you hate it like I do, are the reasons similar or completely different from mine? 

Let's Discuss :)

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Jot it

I thought Fifty Shades of grey was Hilarious when I saw it. I tried reading the book but It seemed like a lot of Contract and emails. In the movie theatre it was packed and had an air of everyone wanting to see a swanky sex movie, very few were there for a romantic aspect. The Characters I felt were poorly developed and a bit immature. So Instead of taking it seriously I just took it as a joke and enjoyed the Heavy breathy version of Crazy in love. Recently I saw Fifty shades of Black (definate sleepover movie) that was pretty funny in most parts. But the Lifestyle I don't know much about. I'll admit in my Sex ed days I only saw stuff like kink or some really wack scenarios, very few consensual. However in real life A Lot of people I've met into BDSM are very nice. So at the end of the day I think the movie and book, promoted abusive relationships mostly. But Like I said I didn't really dig into the book or read its many sequels. I resorted to a site some one else had made who read it so I wouldn't have to.

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keltheimpossible

The book was dreck, the very definition of turgid prose. I attempted to read one volume, just so I could talk to patrons about it, but had to put down after about 16 pages b/c the writing was so bad! But the books stay checked out! I don't see how women read them. They're worse than Amish romances!

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Candy3282
3 hours ago, keltheimpossible said:

The book was dreck, the very definition of turgid prose. I attempted to read one volume, just so I could talk to patrons about it, but had to put down after about 16 pages b/c the writing was so bad! But the books stay checked out! I don't see how women read them. They're worse than Amish romances!

O.O I didn't even know Amish were capable of Romance let alone writing about it lmao. Seriously though, I agree the writing was offensive. I get it is supposed to be Romantica but that doesn't excuse the poor quality of the structuring. I am well aware that my sentence/paragraph structure can be lacking at times in my own writing; so I feel comfortable wondering if she even had an editor look it over before publishing???

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keltheimpossible

Oh, Amish Romances form an entire subgenre of Romance fiction! I've read a couple, just to see what they're about. (Answer: not much.) I once heard another librarian muttering whilst shelving some, "Amish...just whom I'd choose for a romantic obsession: someone who has no electricity, no indoor plumbing, and no education!" Lol. 

I doubt the publisher of the 50 Shades books was much concerned with the quality of writing. He/She/It probably had an eye more on the dollars to be gained. I frequently find myself appalled at books that are extremely popular. I'll mention one author and try not to rant: Sherri Lynn Kenyon is one such that quickly comes to mind. She writes urban fantasy. The only reason I can see for her success is that she writes for women who want porn but don't have the guts to get good porn. Her books, or should I say "book" b/c she really writes only repetitions of the same one, are awful-full of purple prose with lurid encounters of hunky aliens and willing maidens. I'd say shame on the publishers but they ARE in the business of making money and her books do sell well. 

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15 hours ago, keltheimpossible said:

Oh, Amish Romances form an entire subgenre of Romance fiction! I've read a couple, just to see what they're about. (Answer: not much.) I once heard another librarian muttering whilst shelving some, "Amish...just whom I'd choose for a romantic obsession: someone who has no electricity, no indoor plumbing, and no education!" Lol. 

I doubt the publisher of the 50 Shades books was much concerned with the quality of writing. He/She/It probably had an eye more on the dollars to be gained. I frequently find myself appalled at books that are extremely popular. I'll mention one author and try not to rant: Sherri Lynn Kenyon is one such that quickly comes to mind. She writes urban fantasy. The only reason I can see for her success is that she writes for women who want porn but don't have the guts to get good porn. Her books, or should I say "book" b/c she really writes only repetitions of the same one, are awful-full of purple prose with lurid encounters of hunky aliens and willing maidens. I'd say shame on the publishers but they ARE in the business of making money and her books do sell well. 

HAHA!! Amish Romance? Probably people get kicks out of the 'forbidden' pleasure aspects. Not too long ago I tried [keyword] to watch a popular yuri anime called marimite(full title: Maria-sama ga Miteru)... It was so droll! I'm definitely not a fan of rigid society romances. But you highlight a good point. Before and after I gave up porn, I always had a soft spot for a good erotica/ bodice rippers/romance (had to include them all because I find so few good ones by myself in all those categories) but I don't want to read some poorly written play by play, clinically technical, constant puss referencing garbage.  Lol EL James wrote some hilarious terms waaay too much, such as 'inner goddess' (as if I have matangi or isis sitting between my legs), the main characters constant clenching like she's a robot (lol It makes a little sense but not every dang time), 'My sex' really? that one really doesn't make sense. In College since I went to an HBCU for a time EVERYONE (it might as well have been an all girls school with 20/1 girls to guys) Had read some zane book. Never read one myself, the only books I read like that for a while where my older sisters highlander novels and those where too funny story wise. Do Ya'll know of any good ones to read? Please give me some suggestions.

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keltheimpossible

I'm not sure what you're asking for-books in general? Good erotica? The latter, I'd recommend something by Pat Califa. Decent writing, not too vanilla, queer....Books in general-message me, let me what you're interested in, and I'll find you some titles and authors.

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Jot it

Hey thanks! I checked out the book and rest of the site and read some helpful hints by the webmistresses. I think in a sense Ya'll both answered my question. Oh and I will definitely hit you up for book suggestions later on.

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primmy19

I feel I'm more interested in the book, than the movie, and this is why: 

(edited by admins: There was previously some sort of video link in here, but it has since disappeared/errored out, so we just deleted the large blank space where the now dead video link was previously displaying, that being the space now replaced by this parenthetical remark, and now we return you to the rest of this post . . . )

The movie doesn't accurately or positively portray the BDSM community, as it should, and many people found it to be romantic, but that just makes the movie more problematic in my opinion. I reserve my opinion for the book, I plan to read it at some point.

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CeeSquared
keltheimpossible said:

The book was dreck, the very definition of turgid prose. I attempted to read one volume, just so I could talk to patrons about it, but had to put down after about 16 pages b/c the writing was so bad! But the books stay checked out! I don't see how women read them. They're worse than Amish romances!

Oh my gosh... I am in 100% agreement with you! The writing was HORRIBLE and I really just read the first novel just because once I start reading I have to finish. However, I did not read the sequels nor do I intend to ever do so. LOL. 

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Shellbell24

My sister and I watch the movies together for fun (mainly because we get tipsy and laugh how much it sucks) 

i did waste my time and read all the books (did I pay for them? That I did not. No regrets). The writing was horrible.....because it was a fan fiction for another crappy series.

but this woman got rich for a crappy series....so she did something right. 

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GentuLadi

out of respect I will explain, but I watched a little bit of the movie and then stopped. I never returned to it. Long story short didn't have interest in watching it, my friends did.

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MarieJB

Read 1 and 2  let someone borrow three, don't know if I'm getting it back yet. Saw movie 1 and 2.  As usual the books  were better than the movies. Learned a little stuff I didn't know about the S & M world,  but I wish the films were rated X and you could see all of it. 

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krystyna87

The books are much better than the movies, as you say XXX rating would have allowed more.

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Radclyffe

Hi I have recently joined again and found this topic interesting. I too read the book, which I agree was was badly written and frustrating. The film I also found distinctly lacking in portraying a true relationship in the S & M world, although i confess I do not know of any relationship where one person has a natural sadistic persona and tries to seduce a totally vanilla accomplice. I would have given up despite her beauty. If I may recommend another film,  The Duke of Burgundy, this is an accurate portrayal of all the joys and complexities of a relationship that includes the willing exchange of power, it is real and beautiful. 

 

 

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Hoshinao

I like the basic concept of the book because I find it good that BDSM is portrayed since it is part of our society. Some people are into It, some are not and there is a whole spectre in between those two opinions. What I did not find appealing is how the movie wanted to display it. I felt it was rushed, there was no character development (at least for the first movie) and I felt the movie was more centered about sex than the whole aspect of what BDSM implies. Though I'll give one koodo for the fact that they did touch the subject of boundaries but in vain since Anastasia did cry at one point, hence signaling the lack of communication. In my opinion, there is room for a lot of improvement. 

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LaineZ

I have read first book in 50 shades series and seen first two movies. I feel like one book or movie would have been enough, I am not intrigued enough to find out what is happening next. 

The book was kind of boring read because of the repetitive sex scenes. Movie would have been okay, if it would focus on portraying toxic / abusive relationship rather than "typical" BDSM relationship. I understand why BDSM community is pissed about 50 shades because it literally hides abuse under BDSM label. BDSM is not equal with abuse in a relationship.

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nikinan

ve been interested in BDSM for a long time and just recently became more involved with the community, and I would rather live it than read it. 

I haven't heard good things about the book, either so if I were to read it, it'd be for a good chuckle. 

When I saw the trailers for the movie I *genuinely* believed that they were a parody trailer, not the actual ones. 

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Umbra

I've read the book but it was just god awful.

I didn't like any of the characters, since to me they were very boring and it just kinda read as a fan fiction than an actual book.

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krystyna87

I have Read the books & saw the movie But thought the movie left a lot out that really needed to be included for anyone to get the stories true feel.

 while I am not a fan of S & M, I can see how some may wish to partake in it.  Love comes in all shapes,sizes,colors, etc.  once had a partner who wanted me to do things, I never allowed it to happen & now I am glad too have missed that opportunity.

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LizzieLou
keltheimpossible said:

They're worse than Amish romances!

Ok, I'm sorry because I know this is off topic, but... there are Amish romances!?! 

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keltheimpossible

Oh, yes. Amish romances are a very popular (in our library at least) subgenre of Romance novels. They are sometimes loosely classified in with Christian fiction but really do belong in the Romance category.  As a sacrifice in the line of duty, I have read three or four of these, just to see what they are about. Really, they are ALL THE SAME BOOK, which is the attraction, I think.  Hardworking Amish dude (may or may not be a widower), ALWAYS handsome, finds himself in need of a wife (even if he doesn't realize this), woman comes along at JUST the right time coz GOD, and before you know it, there's a new wife on the farm....it's formulaic, you don't have to think while reading it, and your happy ending is assured.  (I once overheard one of my colleagues muttering whilst shelving one, "Amish! JUST whom I'd choose for a romantic obsession! Someone who has no electricity, limited education, and NEVER visits the library...." I cracked up!

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LizzieLou
keltheimpossible said:

woman comes along at JUST the right time coz GOD

Well, bust my buttons. I learn something new everyday. Do the Amish themselves read the Amish romances (it seems like that would be frowned upon) or are others eagerly reading about the Amish and their blessed romances/marriages? (Sorry lesbotronic webmistress - I won't keep on about this much longer so you don't have to start a new topic!) 

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keltheimpossible

No, lol. The Amish (or Mennonites, for that matter) DON'T read them. It's everyone ELSE-women, I mean, though I have these fantasies of their being a secret sub-culture of gay men who ALSO read them-giggle. And just to send you down ANOTHER rabbit hole, have you heard of Mennonite RAP? That is a hoot!

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